#3, Jan 19: Why Do We Need Nation-States?

SPEAKER: Will Wertz

Is the nation-state a historical accident, or a useful discovery, akin to a technology? The thinker most individually responsible for the Golden Renaissance, Nicolaus of Cusa, was also instrumental in creating the concept of the nation. Themes from three of Cusa's great works (On Learned Ignorance, On the Peace of Faith and Catholic Concordance) will be applied by Will Wertz to address the New Bretton Woods needed today.

This class will also address the fundamental divide between Plato and Aristotle and the emergence of the USA, in opposition to the British Empire and the Anglo-Dutch liberal system.

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  • Jeff Owens
    commented 2019-02-01 00:35:11 -0500
    Regarding national credit systems, how does the issuance of credit impact national debt?
  • Jeff Owens
    commented 2019-02-01 00:33:24 -0500
    I’ve seen in Mr. Larouche’s writings that he began studying Leibniz’ work at the age of around 13. When exactly did he discover the work of Nicolas of Cusa? And how did Cusa’s work effect his thinking up to that point and afterward?
  • Jeff Owens
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  • Jason Ross
    commented 2019-01-21 09:21:41 -0500
    Response from Will to an emailed question about the Federal Reserve:
    The Federal Reserve is indeed unconstitutional and as you point out is a private central bank like the Bank of England or the ECB. What is needed is a National Bank as proposed and implemented by Alexander Hamilton, or the Greenback policy of Abraham Lincoln or the equivalent of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Reconstruction Finance Corporation. Lyndon LaRouche has proposed an act to nationalize the Federal Reserve as one way to return to American System of national banking. The need for a national-banking credit system is addressed in the second of his 4 Laws. You are right, such a policy would not only provide domestic credit for productive purposes, but also would be the basis for export credit, which is required for the four powers to cooperate through a New Bretton Woods system in global development projects such as the Chinese One Belt One Road initiative.
  • Jason Ross
    commented 2019-01-21 09:14:40 -0500
    Response from Will Wertz to Özcan Erdönmez:
    This issue cannot be answered in a paragraph or two. I would strongly suggest that you read some of Mr. LaRouche’s writings. One essay by him I would suggest is: “What is God, that Man is in his Image?” which can be found in Vol. IV. No. 1 Spring 1995 issue of Fidelio. (https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/fid_91-96/951_lar_what_is_god.html)
    Man can be brutal when he behaves as an animal. But man in his true nature is different from an animal. No animal is capable of creativity. No animal is capable of inventing new forms of energy production, exploring space, increasing what Mr. LaRouche refers to as potential relative population density. Imperial systems attempt to suppress creativity and reduce man to an animal state. We are fighting for a form of society, a sovereign nation state, which is appropriate to man as in the living image of the Creator, that is, man, as the only creative species. And we are fighting for a fraternal system of such sovereign nation states, regardless of religion, etc.
    Man has free will. If he didn’t he would merely be a machine. But since he has free will he can either act for the good or evil. If he act in an evil manner, that is not to be blamed on the Creator, but on how man exercises his free will. And also on how society is organized. See Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz’s writing entitled the Theodicy.
    Mr. LaRouche recognizes a positive quality in Christianity associated with the contributions of certain Christian thinkers, like Nicolaus of Cusa, whose ideas are coherent with the views of Plato, who was not Christian, with Philo of Alexandria, who was Jewish, and Ibn Sina, who was a Muslim. However, in all cases he does not operate on the basis of any unexamined doctrine, but rather only on the basis of that which is provable scientifically.
  • Jason Ross
    commented 2019-01-21 09:13:26 -0500
    Response from Will Wertz to Sammy D.:
    The idea of Capax Dei means the capacity to be creative as in the case of the Creator. As Nicolaus of Cusa says, man is a second god, but not Absolute God, rather a human god. In Christian theology, only human beings have the capacity to become divine. The Word or Logos could only become flesh in a species capable of receiving the Logos. Only a human being could become the Son of God. In Christian theology other human beings can become adopted sons of God, by exercising their Capax Dei. See Nicolaus of Cusa’s essay On Filiation.
  • Jason Ross
    commented 2019-01-21 09:12:28 -0500
    Response from Will Wertz to Lawrence Henni:
    It is preferable that a sovereign nation state have as fullset an economy as possible. In the transition, one limiting factor is the availability of required resources, such as a nation which does not have oil or gas resources, or uranium or a nation which may not be able to provide itself with all of the agricultural products required.
    But there are nations today which could for instance be self-sufficient in food production, but because of free trade policies, are not. Take the nation of Mexico. It currently imports 100% of its beans and corn, both of which are staples of its diet. This occurred as a result of NAFTA.
    Every nation should focus on the frontiers of science and on advanced technology. Third world countries should have a focus on space and nuclear energy in cooperation with more advanced countries. Third world nations, while importing capital goods from developed nations, should do so in order to develop their own technological capabilities and skilled work force.
    This is why Mr. LaRouche emphasizes that sovereign nation states also need to cooperate on development projects and on scientific research and on such projects as space and fusion development.
    The cooperation must thus focus on increasing the productive powers of the populations of each of the cooperating sovereign nation states.
  • Ozcan Erdonmez
    commented 2019-01-20 06:48:48 -0500
    I was born into Muslim parents, but when I started seriously questioning my faith, I eventually discovered that not only are all religions (undoubtedly) man-made constructs, but even the very concept of God doesn’t hold water. I’m sorry, but I don’t see any evidence for any Gods at all, when I look at nature I only see immense brutality, pain, suffering and chaos. Animals, indeed all living beings, have to brutally kill and eat each other just to stay alive. What kind of “Godly” system is this? I don’t understand why humans want to praise or even worship such an immoral and merciless God. Apart from this obsession with God (probably the God of Christianity), I fully support your noble work at the Larouche Movement. How could I be against global economic development, technological progress and world peace? I agree with everything except your views on God and religion.
  • Kemo Sabe
    commented 2019-01-19 15:57:34 -0500
    Top would appear to go backwards
  • Judy Feingold
    followed this page 2019-01-19 15:32:09 -0500
  • Lawrence Henni
    commented 2019-01-19 14:34:30 -0500
    I think my question is being answered, but can you answer it again? maybe in laymans terms or different words ;) lol
  • Michele Greene
    commented 2019-01-19 14:31:50 -0500
    Attribution of the origins of natural law to Christianity appears to be misplaced. "Natural Law – The History The Greeks — Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle emphasized the distinction between “nature” (physis, φъσις) and “law,” “custom,” or “convention” (nomos, νуμος). What the law commanded varied from place to place, but what was “by nature” should be the same everywhere". https://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/natural-law.htm. Further, at the time of the early Greeks they were subjects of Egypt. And it is possible that their ideas originiate in Egypt and were known to Moses who led the children of Israel out of bondage in that ancient land.
  • Lawrence Henni
    commented 2019-01-19 14:23:09 -0500
    Although a sovereign Nation state may not necessarily have a fullset economy (production of all its economy goods within its own borders), how important is a fullset economy to the Nation state and the relationship with virtues and prudence?
  • Kemo Sabe
    commented 2019-01-19 13:43:31 -0500
    Any comments on Christopher Bollyn’ Making Sense of the War on Terror video?
  • Jason Ross
    commented 2019-01-19 10:10:29 -0500
    Chuck and Israel – thank you for your questions! I’ll have them on hand to ask Will today.
  • Israel Fajardo
    commented 2019-01-19 08:48:59 -0500
    Could you address the idea of the “American Empire” ? It is becoming more common the idea that American Imperialism is the major dominant force in the world. Due to the ongoing wars and destruction the US has perceivable led over the past several decades. Much of the nihilism in the populus seems to come from this idea. If we are an Empire, it’s ok if we fail. Many comparing it’s “fall” to the Roman Empire, et al. The nihilism turns into a jacobin mob type mentality. Thank you. Look forward to your response.
  • Chuck Jones
    commented 2019-01-18 23:15:03 -0500
    Two questions for the class:
    1. I’ve heard it said that the nations making up the 4 Powers consists of the most populous nations on Earth, but Russia carries a smaller percentage of the world population than Indonesia, so why is it included?
    2. How is a new global economic system supposed to work without Europe? Collectively Europe carries a larger percentage of global GDP than India or Russia.
  • Jason Ross
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  • Benjamin Deniston
    published this page in 2019 New Bretton Woods Class Series 2019-01-03 13:30:10 -0500